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PostSubject: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:35 am

First the forum change and now a band change up. I hope everyone is ok and everything works out ok. I dig the music so I hope more comes along. I wish everybody the best!
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:26 am

As far as I noticed, the forum really needed a fresh start because of that spammer invasion thing, it was absolutely annoying and the moderators had to deal with it every single day, which wasn't easy or pleasant for sure. But they certainly did a brilliant job! I realise it's hard to leave the old forum with all its history and sentimental value but...meh.

And The Vines...oh this change is a shock to all of us fans and many of us still try to accept the news. Anyway, we're still waiting for Jessica to get her statement done and finally let us know what actually happened and why it did. Tough times indeed but we need to be patient.

[Off-topic]: I totally dig your signature! Yeats is a brilliant poet! (:
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 am

I was always under the impression the drummer had disapproving looks towards Craig when he sang. Not really surprised at all. I think Craig should be the alpha force anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:19 am

Why have I always had the impression that Craig IS the alpha force in this band, I mean - he writes all the songs, lyrics and stuff since the very establishment of The Vines... study
The drummer? You mean Hamish didn't approve of his singing? I must have been very unobservant then! Shocked I have always thought that Craig, Ryan, Hamish and Brad were the perfect team and they always get along- woops, GOT along...
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:33 am

That's what I see from their live music. I hope craig continues to grow as an artist. Life is full of change!
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:40 am

I hope neither of you don't mind and will excuse my interrupting of this conversation, but I have to admit I did notice those somewhat disgruntled looks Hamish gave Craig during his rowdier episodes in live performances (especially when Craig messed with his drums). However, I always assumed it was just an extension of dedicated concentration (no one looks happy all the time when they're going insane on the drums), and I thought it was understandable for when Craig hit over his cymbals. So, somehow I don't think that explains it... and besides, it begs the question: why now, after so long and periods of more turbulent circumstances?

But that's only my 2 cents, of course.

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:50 am

Lol I don't know the behind the scenes chemistry but if someone looked at me like a tightwad while playing gigs I'd have a pissing contest too. Who knows what gets guys out of gear but i'm sure it was brewing. I think the ride of fame keeps people locked in but when it's on the downslide you have to find the inspiration again. I think people should support Craig in his future work. You can't force people to deal with each other.
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:55 am

is it possible to have the leaf images still for different posting levels? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:26 am

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I hope neither of you don't mind and will excuse my interrupting of this conversation, but I have to admit I did notice those somewhat disgruntled looks Hamish gave Craig during his rowdier episodes in live performances (especially when Craig messed with his drums). However, I always assumed it was just an extension of dedicated concentration (no one looks happy all the time when they're going insane on the drums), and I thought it was understandable for when Craig hit over his cymbals. So, somehow I don't think that explains it... and besides, it begs the question: why now, after so long and periods of more turbulent circumstances?

But that's only my 2 cents, of course.

That's what I used to think too! But then when I watched them on the future primitive tour, he really seemed to be gaining zero pleasure from playing... The mosh was crazy, everyone was having so much fun and he wouldn't even look at the audience....weird!
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:17 pm

Now I'm starting to feel like there was a huge blow up. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:31 pm

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Now I'm starting to feel like there was a huge blow up. Sad

But if they'd had a massive fight why would Ryan and Hamish come to the home bake gig?? No
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:46 pm

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Kitty wrote:
Now I'm starting to feel like there was a huge blow up. Sad

But if they'd had a massive fight why would Ryan and Hamish come to the home bake gig?? No

I think maybe it's worth remembering they watched from the crowd.....not backstage or side stage.

I don't know, all we can do is speculate at the moment!

I'm getting the feeling Hamish left. But i don't know why Ryan would leave too?

And i also get the feeling Craig was being sarcastic when he said on stage at Homebake "GREAT to be here." i don't know if that comes across on the youtube video, i haven't seen it, but that's the feeling i got at the time... confused
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:24 pm

Anysound wrote:
I hope neither of you don't mind and will excuse my interrupting of this conversation, but I have to admit I did notice those somewhat disgruntled looks Hamish gave Craig during his rowdier episodes in live performances (especially when Craig messed with his drums). However, I always assumed it was just an extension of dedicated concentration (no one looks happy all the time when they're going insane on the drums), and I thought it was understandable for when Craig hit over his cymbals. So, somehow I don't think that explains it... and besides, it begs the question: why now, after so long and periods of more turbulent circumstances?

But that's only my 2 cents, of course.

I thought the same! It's a shame that all this is happening, i think we can just speculate, and hope to get some answers, everytime i noticed "Hamish's looks" i thought they got along, like they were ok with that.. i don't know what to think, but yeah, it's weird.. why now!? Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:33 pm

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anaobrad wrote:
Kitty wrote:
Now I'm starting to feel like there was a huge blow up. Sad

But if they'd had a massive fight why would Ryan and Hamish come to the home bake gig?? No

I think maybe it's worth remembering they watched from the crowd.....not backstage or side stage.

That's a really good point actually...

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:04 pm

What's going on with a label? Didn't they pay for Future primitive themselves? Are they paying for #6 themselves too? I don't see where they'd get money to tour internationally at this point. I'm hoping for a revival!
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:48 am

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What's going on with a label? Didn't they pay for Future primitive themselves? Are they paying for #6 themselves too? I don't see where they'd get money to tour internationally at this point. I'm hoping for a revival!

They paid for the 5th album themselves before they got a new label contract but no idea about the 6th album or tour plans.

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:50 am

Now I'm just going worry about what is happening with the future of The Vines.

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:34 pm

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Now I'm just going worry about what is happening with the future of The Vines.

Me too. Even though we had a very brief reassurance from Jess that this isn't the end for The Vines, it's definitely a very scary situation..
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:42 pm

ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/the_vines_announce_new_album.html

Found this comment made back in March from above site:
"Ahhh the Vines.. They had such good tunes but they were absolutely horrendous live; the set was ridiculously short and Craig got angry at his drummer, started throwing shit at him then left the stage and had to be begged back on. Hopefully Craig is more with it now as they definitely were a cool band."

Seems there has been trouble brewing for some time?!
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:22 am

Maybe they're not going to finish #6. Maybe this is goodbye!? Who knows. Why would you quit while making an album? Obviously certain people think they're too good for the Vines. I wish everyone a big creative hug to move on and be the artists they need to be.
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:27 pm

chacha wrote:
ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/the_vines_announce_new_album.html

Found this comment made back in March from above site:
"Ahhh the Vines.. They had such good tunes but they were absolutely horrendous live; the set was ridiculously short and Craig got angry at his drummer, started throwing shit at him then left the stage and had to be begged back on. Hopefully Craig is more with it now as they definitely were a cool band."

Seems there has been trouble brewing for some time?!

Wooow. Shocked That is... certainly shocking and quite sad, in a way. Neutral It's getting hard not to start speculating again.

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:47 am

I just hope this isn't like a Guns N Roses change up and Craig is wearing braids for a decade as a recluse. Man did Axle go down hard. Don't do it Craig! Keep it together!
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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:04 am

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I just hope this isn't like a Guns N Roses change up and Craig is wearing braids for a decade as a recluse. Man did Axle go down hard. Don't do it Craig! Keep it together!

Oh god, my friend from school and I were talking about the Vines' lineup change and the conversation turned to exactly this topic. silent

I'm sure it won't happen though.

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:38 pm

Anysound wrote:
Treestar wrote:
I just hope this isn't like a Guns N Roses change up and Craig is wearing braids for a decade as a recluse. Man did Axle go down hard. Don't do it Craig! Keep it together!

Oh god, my friend from school and I were talking about the Vines' lineup change and the conversation turned to exactly this topic. silent

I'm sure it won't happen though.

I hope he doesn't become insane than he really is.

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PostSubject: Re: Wow alot of change with the Vines   Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:45 pm

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I hope he doesn't become insane than he really is.

Awh, don't say that. He's not "insane" to begin with.

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