New members?

freak wrote:

How come everyone's so cool about it? That really really sucks!!!

I can't help but agree. Sure, we all know Craig is the fundamental creative force behind The Vines because he writes the songs and all, but losing half the band is going to have a massive impact regardless. Ryan and Hamish were just as important as any other member and I just can't get over it. And I'm trying, because I know we need to support The Vines no matter what but without knowing why, I'm finding it hard.

I've just thought, if they are not going to replace Ryan maybe it means he has left band not forever? So hope for it.

I'm confused.. Did Craig kick them out or did they chose to leave? I'm just trying to figure out if this part of Craig's master plan or something.

freak wrote:

How come everyone's so cool about it? That really really sucks!!!

Exactly!!

I suppose the name of the band should be something like Craig Nicholls & His Temporary Satellites Whom He Kicks Out Whenever He Gets Bored With Them

The whole thing is just sooo not right
Has he ever considered a solo career?

on_safari wrote:

I'm confused.. Did Craig kick them out or did they chose to leave? I'm just trying to figure out if this part of Craig's master plan or something.

The feeds article did say that Craig sacked Hamish and Ryan and hired a new drummer, wich is kind of upsetting like he owns the band and doesn't care about the other members, then again he does cause they're his songs and he is the leader of the band, even though songs aren't everything

I guess I will give him the benefit of the doubt until we know what really happened, IF we ever do, I mean maybe he kicked them out or maybe they decided to leave and left Craig hanging although that sounds weird cause they didn't do it during The Vines hardest times, what could've happened so terrible now to make them split ?!!

I don't really know what to think! It's all too weird ... I'm going to miss Hamish and Ryan though

Rusty wrote:

I suppose the name of the band should be something like Craig Nicholls & His Temporary Satellites Whom He Kicks Out Whenever He Gets Bored With Them

Haha I think Craig no matter whatever band name he plays under, either it's The Craig Nicholls Band or The Vines, will always play the same music, that's why I like love him ... of course it'd suck if he kicked Hamish and Ryan out of the band though

We will have to wait for Hamish and Ryan to form their own bands and see what happens ...

This has got to be a publicity stunt, right? It's a desperate attempt for the band to make headlines like "derange Craig Nicholls fires two thirds of his band, including a founding member" etc... IT'S ALL A BIG MARKETING PLOY, RIGHT??!?!??!!

Regardless, I want to slap Craig in the face. I love him dearly and his music is of incomparable importance to me, but I just can't understand how he could supposedly do something like this and not at least issue a statement to his fans.

...... I can't imagine The Vines with Hamish or Ryan. It reminds the recent reformation of Hole. If it's just Courtney Love and none of the other original members, it's not really Hole - it's just Courtney Love playing Hole songs. Even though Craig may be the primary songwriter, we don't know The Vines without Hamish (and since Ryan joined the band so early, we can pretty much say he was there from the beginning). Without those two, it's just not right.

Well, I'm glad I'm not alone in my thoughts.

Howl wrote:

This has got to be a publicity stunt, right? It's a desperate attempt for the band to make headlines like "derange Craig Nicholls fires two thirds of his band, including a founding member" etc... IT'S ALL A BIG MARKETING PLOY, RIGHT??!?!??!!

Do you really think that Craig would stoop to something so low??

Howl wrote:

Even though Craig may be the primary songwriter, we don't know The Vines without Hamish (and since Ryan joined the band so early, we can pretty much say he was there from the beginning). Without those two, it's just not right.

This is the end of an era, that's for sure...
So sad

Rusty wrote:

Howl wrote:

This has got to be a publicity stunt, right? It's a desperate attempt for the band to make headlines like "derange Craig Nicholls fires two thirds of his band, including a founding member" etc... IT'S ALL A BIG MARKETING PLOY, RIGHT??!?!??!!

I actually don't think he would. I'm just trying to think of a situation where Hamsish and Ryan might return. I'd love for it to be a publicity stunt.

Howl wrote:

...... I can't imagine The Vines with Hamish or Ryan. It reminds the recent reformation of Hole. If it's just Courtney Love and none of the other original members, it's not really Hole - it's just Courtney Love playing Hole songs. Even though Craig may be the primary songwriter, we don't know The Vines without Hamish (and since Ryan joined the band so early, we can pretty much say he was there from the beginning). Without those two, it's just not right.

Yeah, I definitely agree with the Hole statement....it feels like the band loses something just thinking of Hamish and Ryan not being there.....and that something is massive :-(

I really believe there must be good reason behind the split though...The Vines have been a huge part of Hamish and Ryan's life for too long for them to have had a fight NOW, after all the massive dramas, and split. Its so depressing though I mean, we've seen pictures of Ryan and Craig together from childhood! They were best friends.

It's totally obvious that Ryan and Hamish were a major part of The Vines and it's really difficult to comprehend that they aren't going to be a part of the band anymore..Their sudden departure really broke my heart..However speculation, anger or even blame is not going to change the situation!! Therefore I think it's really important to wait for the facts!!
Until I have all the facts and are aware of why this has happened, I WILL continue to support Craig, Brad and who ever else chooses to play along side them..That does not mean for one minute that I don't care about Hamish or Ryan cos I luv them dearly..It simply means that I refuse to stop supporting a band that I have ALWAYS BELIEVED IN, based on some internet reports, speculation and heresay!! We just don't know, there could be so much more to this than we realise!! WAITING FOR THE FACTS!!

I'M FUCKING CRYING.


WTF ARE YOU GUYS SAYING? IS THAT GOOD? IT IS NOT.

FUCK YOU ALL

wtf happened? did craig sack them out of the band? COULD SOMEONE JUST EXPLAIN THAT SHIT TO ME?

"The band has made a creative decision to revert back to a three piece"


CREATIVE DECISION??


WILL PATRICK AND HAMISH BE BACK? No. SO IT IS NOT CREATIVE. I'm sorry, but I just can't imagine any fucking new guy doing Vines song except 'em. Sorry. I can't deal with that shit at least for now.

AND ONCE AGAIN


THIS FORUM SUCKS


I want my Vines days back


why
why
why
why.












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luuana wrote:

AND ONCE AGAIN


THIS FORUM SUCKS


I want my Vines days back


why
why
why
why.












.

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Wonder when we will find out the news.....

Longs the vines keep going with Craigs songwriting I am happy and COME FOR UK TOUR SOON. Hopefully the others be in a new band we be able follow them as well. Maybe Ryan gone solo - he spoke of some songs before.

CandyFlippinGirl wrote:

It's totally obvious that Ryan and Hamish were a major part of The Vines and it's really difficult to comprehend that they aren't going to be a part of the band anymore..Their sudden departure really broke my heart..However speculation, anger or even blame is not going to change the situation!! Therefore I think it's really important to wait for the facts!!
Until I have all the facts and are aware of why this has happened, I WILL continue to support Craig, Brad and who ever else chooses to play along side them..That does not mean for one minute that I don't care about Hamish or Ryan cos I luv them dearly..It simply means that I refuse to stop supporting a band that I have ALWAYS BELIEVED IN, based on some internet reports, speculation and heresay!! We just don't know, there could be so much more to this than we realise!! WAITING FOR THE FACTS!!

Obviously you can't jump to conclusions, but if I had decided to buy a plane ticket from Texas to see 'the vines' and got there and saw one remaining original member, without any kind of knowledge beforehand, i'd be fuckin upset. This band doesnt care about their fans, no matter what they say. THIS forum should be the place to break news like this, to the people who give a shit. It's fucked up having to find out through some random ass twitter account.

beege wrote:

Obviously you can't jump to conclusions, but if I had decided to buy a plane ticket from Texas to see 'the vines' and got there and saw one remaining original member, without any kind of knowledge beforehand, i'd be fuckin upset. This band doesnt care about their fans, no matter what they say. THIS forum should be the place to break news like this, to the people who give a shit. It's fucked up having to find out through some random ass twitter account.

THANK YOU!

Hi Guys new to forum...been reading the forum for a long time now, been a fan of the band since highly Evolved single and been obsessed ever since, but i must say without knowing all the facts im really sad at the departure or sacking of Hamish and Ryan, i mean the way we found out was really low, No official statement just a rumour online that had to be confirmed by Jessica, i feel really let down and like someone said id be pissed if id bought a ticket traveled really far to see only one original member playing, its Just not on, even if they were not sacked communication would have been nice, which lacks when it comes to the story of the band.

i wish my first post was not a negative.

alex84 wrote:

Hi Guys new to forum...been reading the forum for a long time now, been a fan of the band since highly Evolved single and been obsessed ever since, but i must say without knowing all the facts im really sad at the departure or sacking of Hamish and Ryan, i mean the way we found out was really low, No official statement just a rumour online that had to be confirmed by Jessica, i feel really let down and like someone said id be pissed if id bought a ticket traveled really far to see only one original member playing, its Just not on, even if they were not sacked communication would have been nice, which lacks when it comes to the story of the band.

i wish my first post was not a negative.

I'm sorry, but once again, I have to agree.

I'm not blaming anybody... I'm just pretty upset, confused and sad...

Edit: Welcome Alex84

It's just Craig & Brad now with some hipster on the drums. Which doesn't sound very bandy on paper, so i can't imagine it in the studio. The new music will be missing 2 original members input.

I wonder what happened to the new album (no. 6) then that was supposedly nearly completed? I'm going to assume it got scraped, unless that's now Hamish and Ryan's swan song album when it finally comes out.

luuana wrote:

I'M FUCKING CRYING.


WTF ARE YOU GUYS SAYING? IS THAT GOOD? IT IS NOT.

FUCK YOU ALL

Awhh, Luana. I'm so sorry, and I don't know what to say to make you feel better... I know, this really sucks, and I know how much you love the band and how upset you must be, but stay strong.

alex84 wrote:

Hi Guys new to forum...been reading the forum for a long time now, been a fan of the band since highly Evolved single and been obsessed ever since, but i must say without knowing all the facts im really sad at the departure or sacking of Hamish and Ryan, i mean the way we found out was really low, No official statement just a rumour online that had to be confirmed by Jessica, i feel really let down and like someone said id be pissed if id bought a ticket traveled really far to see only one original member playing, its Just not on, even if they were not sacked communication would have been nice, which lacks when it comes to the story of the band.

i wish my first post was not a negative.

Hey Alex, sorry your first post had to be one borne out of such sad circumstances, but welcome to the forum anyway. And don't worry about it being negative, we can't really expect much else at the moment haha.

I agree, I'm so sad about Ryan and Hamish and the way we found out is almost insulting. I can also understand completely about the whole travelling to see only one original member play.

But as much as I could say and be upset about, I'm still clinging on to hope and as part of that I'm still really hoping the statement that gets released will clear a lot up and redeem things a bit.

beege wrote:

CandyFlippinGirl wrote:

It's totally obvious that Ryan and Hamish were a major part of The Vines and it's really difficult to comprehend that they aren't going to be a part of the band anymore..Their sudden departure really broke my heart..However speculation, anger or even blame is not going to change the situation!! Therefore I think it's really important to wait for the facts!!
Until I have all the facts and are aware of why this has happened, I WILL continue to support Craig, Brad and who ever else chooses to play along side them..That does not mean for one minute that I don't care about Hamish or Ryan cos I luv them dearly..It simply means that I refuse to stop supporting a band that I have ALWAYS BELIEVED IN, based on some internet reports, speculation and heresay!! We just don't know, there could be so much more to this than we realise!! WAITING FOR THE FACTS!!

Obviously you can't jump to conclusions, but if I had decided to buy a plane ticket from Texas to see 'the vines' and got there and saw one remaining original member, without any kind of knowledge beforehand, i'd be fuckin upset. This band doesnt care about their fans, no matter what they say. THIS forum should be the place to break news like this, to the people who give a shit. It's fucked up having to find out through some random ass twitter account.

MARRY ME.

YOU JUST SAID IT ALL.

Not only the news thing.. IT'S ABOUT EVERYTHING. If we don't go find stuff, we won't fucking know what's happening to that band. I'm their fan since 2003 and all I can say is: they never gave a shit about us, south american fans. Yes, i'm sorry, because having the lead singer's sister just telling us "yes they like you and thanks for your supporting" is not fucking enough when your really want to see them live.

Fuck that shit. I'm still a Vines fan, but it's about only three fucking albums.

sorry for my poor and angry english.